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			<title><![CDATA[Hi Guys]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 09:25:16 +0100</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Hi guys just signed up and think it is a great site.<br />
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http://www.theprintedbagshop.co.uk]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Hi guys just signed up and think it is a great site.<br />
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http://www.theprintedbagshop.co.uk]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[PPC &amp;#x26; Keyword Research]]></title>
			<link>http://www.seoa.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=158</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 09:10:13 +0100</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[PPC shows why keyword research is vital. For competitive terms you can expect to pay around £4 per click. However with good quality keyword research you will be able to select good quality targeted words/phrases.<br />
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I also believe that less popular terms deliver more targeted traffic]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[PPC shows why keyword research is vital. For competitive terms you can expect to pay around £4 per click. However with good quality keyword research you will be able to select good quality targeted words/phrases.<br />
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I also believe that less popular terms deliver more targeted traffic]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Forget Forum Signatures]]></title>
			<link>http://www.seoa.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=157</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 06:40:39 +0100</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[In terms of link building forum signatures are having less and less impact, apart from a few select sites. <br />
<br />
Work a forum for your own benefit <br />
<br />
Open lots of accounts, in the profile section you can add your homepage url. <br />
<br />
Start many threads, this will help if the title is related to your keywords. 4Networking currently offers the best available free backlink on the net, however look sharp as I believe the management are considering a small subscription charge, in my opinion this is long overdue.<br />
<br />
I still believe forums have seen their best days when it comes to link building, that said there is a new kid on the block, the classified ad. The strongest site is Craigslist, this adopts the no-follow attribute, the next tier use do follow, adzooks, gumtree and viva street their downside is their ads are only live for 30 - 45 days.<br />
<br />
The idea is to find a classified ad section that offers a free strong backlink, is not deleted on time, you can deep link and is listed on a strong site. To be honest there are not many about, this is why I made my own here.<br />
<br />
Classifieds offer a stronger link simply because they are contextually based. Google is always reminding us, the more we give to the online community the more they will reward us. Classifieds are also a great place to target less popular keywords. I submitted an ad yesterday for one of my clients and already it is on page 1 of a major search engine.<br />
<br />
http://search.live.com/results.aspx?q=pr...-SearchBox<br />
<br />
The only way forward with any link building campaign is to experiment, then when you find something that works, put some long hours in.<br />
<br />
Try writing a small unique article with anchor text and add it to this business networking organisation and see the benefits.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[In terms of link building forum signatures are having less and less impact, apart from a few select sites. <br />
<br />
Work a forum for your own benefit <br />
<br />
Open lots of accounts, in the profile section you can add your homepage url. <br />
<br />
Start many threads, this will help if the title is related to your keywords. 4Networking currently offers the best available free backlink on the net, however look sharp as I believe the management are considering a small subscription charge, in my opinion this is long overdue.<br />
<br />
I still believe forums have seen their best days when it comes to link building, that said there is a new kid on the block, the classified ad. The strongest site is Craigslist, this adopts the no-follow attribute, the next tier use do follow, adzooks, gumtree and viva street their downside is their ads are only live for 30 - 45 days.<br />
<br />
The idea is to find a classified ad section that offers a free strong backlink, is not deleted on time, you can deep link and is listed on a strong site. To be honest there are not many about, this is why I made my own here.<br />
<br />
Classifieds offer a stronger link simply because they are contextually based. Google is always reminding us, the more we give to the online community the more they will reward us. Classifieds are also a great place to target less popular keywords. I submitted an ad yesterday for one of my clients and already it is on page 1 of a major search engine.<br />
<br />
http://search.live.com/results.aspx?q=pr...-SearchBox<br />
<br />
The only way forward with any link building campaign is to experiment, then when you find something that works, put some long hours in.<br />
<br />
Try writing a small unique article with anchor text and add it to this business networking organisation and see the benefits.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[DMOZ.....Faints!!!!!!!!!!!!!!]]></title>
			<link>http://www.seoa.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=156</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 19:23:21 +0100</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Imagine my surprise today to find my website http://www.businessservicesuk.com had found its way into DMOZ now that was a long 2 years.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Imagine my surprise today to find my website http://www.businessservicesuk.com had found its way into DMOZ now that was a long 2 years.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Hit me]]></title>
			<link>http://www.seoa.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=155</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 21:22:40 +0100</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Hey Guys<br />
<br />
I wonder if someone can help me or give me some pointers I am no way, shape or form an SEO person and I have very limited knowledge. I am just wondering if anyone knows any good free resource places where I can learn some SEO?<br />
<br />
I also need some advice on a website I am working on. I am working on the website at work so don’t go off on one thinking I have told people I am a pro SEO person. The website is http://www.corporate-gifts-co.com I just need some advice as to what could be wrong with it. <br />
<br />
I have already been doing a blog and a forum which have been going ok I was told to stop link building and it seemed to work as the site went from 11th to 5th for 2 weeks but now we have dropped back down to 11th which is quite worrying so just wondering if some people can give me some advice.<br />
<br />
I have been doing various things to the site which include<br />
•	Social bookmarking<br />
•	Directories<br />
•	Blog pages (5 per day)<br />
•	Forum posts with link in sig<br />
•	Article submission<br />
•	Changing content and meta keywords<br />
<br />
Is there anything I should be doing which I am not or is there any reason why we are dropping?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Hey Guys<br />
<br />
I wonder if someone can help me or give me some pointers I am no way, shape or form an SEO person and I have very limited knowledge. I am just wondering if anyone knows any good free resource places where I can learn some SEO?<br />
<br />
I also need some advice on a website I am working on. I am working on the website at work so don’t go off on one thinking I have told people I am a pro SEO person. The website is http://www.corporate-gifts-co.com I just need some advice as to what could be wrong with it. <br />
<br />
I have already been doing a blog and a forum which have been going ok I was told to stop link building and it seemed to work as the site went from 11th to 5th for 2 weeks but now we have dropped back down to 11th which is quite worrying so just wondering if some people can give me some advice.<br />
<br />
I have been doing various things to the site which include<br />
•	Social bookmarking<br />
•	Directories<br />
•	Blog pages (5 per day)<br />
•	Forum posts with link in sig<br />
•	Article submission<br />
•	Changing content and meta keywords<br />
<br />
Is there anything I should be doing which I am not or is there any reason why we are dropping?]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Do me a Favour]]></title>
			<link>http://www.seoa.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=154</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 17:30:13 +0100</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Hey Guys<br />
<br />
I wonder if people can please stumble my site and maybe leave a review of it? I will return the favour if you would like. The website is http://www.corporate-gifts-co.com just the home page will do unless you wish to do more. <br />
<br />
I hope to have some Stumbles soon.<br />
<br />
Thanks Kevin]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Hey Guys<br />
<br />
I wonder if people can please stumble my site and maybe leave a review of it? I will return the favour if you would like. The website is http://www.corporate-gifts-co.com just the home page will do unless you wish to do more. <br />
<br />
I hope to have some Stumbles soon.<br />
<br />
Thanks Kevin]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[SEO vs PPC why choose one?]]></title>
			<link>http://www.seoa.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=153</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 13:24:33 +0100</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Here's some food for thought. <br />
<br />
When someone asks 'should I do SEO or PPC to drive traffic to my site?' why would anyone ever suggest just one or the other? Surely the only correct answer is 'both'.<br />
<br />
The balance of the mix will (should) change during the life of the website, but in few cases will either be the only solution.<br />
<br />
When launching a site, on day one a PPC campaign may be vital to ensure immediate ROI for the business, untill SEO starts to become effective. As it does, so the dependence on PPC should reduce.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Here's some food for thought. <br />
<br />
When someone asks 'should I do SEO or PPC to drive traffic to my site?' why would anyone ever suggest just one or the other? Surely the only correct answer is 'both'.<br />
<br />
The balance of the mix will (should) change during the life of the website, but in few cases will either be the only solution.<br />
<br />
When launching a site, on day one a PPC campaign may be vital to ensure immediate ROI for the business, untill SEO starts to become effective. As it does, so the dependence on PPC should reduce.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[With Microsoft mum, analysts mull next moves for Live Search]]></title>
			<link>http://www.seoa.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=152</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 13:17:36 +0100</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[SEATTLE (AP) — Without the influx of Web traffic that Microsoft bet would quickly follow a Yahoo buyout, the software maker is facing a long slog if it wants to turn its money-losing online services business into a Google-killer.<br />
<br />
Since it withdrew a &#36;47.5 billion bid for Yahoo Inc. after talks collapsed, Microsoft Corp. has offered little insight into what "Plan C" will entail. In that vacuum, experts are scraping the bottom of the barrel for ideas, with many concluding that they actually don't know what could get Microsoft out of its pickle.<br />
<br />
It is not clear Microsoft can do this alone — and in fact, it's not always clear what "this" is. Some analysts say Microsoft must increase its search traffic to attract advertisers. Others believe Microsoft should concede that market to Google Inc. and find success elsewhere — leapfrogging rivals in areas such as display and mobile advertising.<br />
<br />
All that is clear is Microsoft must come up with a Plan C soon, after acknowledging that its Plan A of going solo was troubled, forcing it to turn to Plan B of acquiring Yahoo.<br />
<br />
Part of the problem analysts face predicting Microsoft's next moves is that the company has already tried the obvious tactics. It built its own search-ad platform from scratch and spent &#36;6 billion to buy a major online advertising company, aQuantive.<br />
<br />
Microsoft overhauled its search engine technology, and most analysts agree that its results are at least as good as Google's. It tweaked the design of its Live Search service to become more like Google. It touted its improvements on billboards and in glossy magazines.<br />
<br />
Last year, the company seemed confident that it wouldn't take much to convert the hundreds of millions of Hotmail users, Xbox Live-connected video gamers and Windows Live Messenger chatters into a flood of search traffic.<br />
<br />
"We've done a lot of work to get clear strategy and focus," Kevin Johnson, who heads the division that includes online services, told a gathering of financial analysts in July. In November, Johnson detailed aggressive goals that included capturing 30 percent of U.S. search queries.<br />
<br />
By January, though, it was apparent Microsoft's efforts weren't working. Its share of U.S. search queries was stuck under 10 percent, behind Yahoo's 22 percent and Google's 58 percent. Microsoft responded by proposing to buy Yahoo for its traffic and search-savvy engineers.<br />
<br />
That bid unraveled Saturday, and Microsoft is running out of options. Many expect Microsoft to make another run at Yahoo, or to buy other companies, such as Time Warner Inc.'s AOL, the online software company Salesforce.com Inc. or Facebook, the No. 2 online hangout in which Microsoft already owns a 1.6 percent stake.<br />
<br />
For now, Microsoft seems focused on going alone, though the company declined to make executives available to talk about its online plans. In Japan, Chairman Bill Gates told reporters Wednesday that "at this point Microsoft is focused on its independent strategy."<br />
<br />
Just two days before Microsoft Chief Executive Steve Ballmer walked away from the Yahoo bid, he outlined to employees a four-part plan to "build the most interesting position in the world in online advertising, media, and the kind of social connected search and media experiences that go along with that."<br />
<br />
First, Microsoft must do the basics — a huge search index, lots of storage in the cloud for users — very well.<br />
<br />
It must innovate in "quick waves" that force Google to play catch-up.<br />
<br />
It must "change the basic experiences" of communication and search.<br />
<br />
And it must gain scale.<br />
<br />
"We have a strategy and we have ideas in each one of those categories," Ballmer told the employees.<br />
<br />
The promise fell flat with analysts who had heard it so recently before.<br />
<br />
Part of Microsoft's trouble is all the attention that Google gets. After all, no one uses Microsoft as a verb for search.<br />
<br />
Danny Sullivan, editor in chief of the industry news site SearchEngineLand.com, said Microsoft's Live Search has innovative features people would really like.<br />
<br />
Its image search results keep growing as users scroll, eliminating the need to click to the next page. Video search thumbnails start playing when the user mouses over them. Microsoft has also launched specialized searches for health and medical information and added some fun features for the celebrity-obsessed.<br />
<br />
But nobody knows about that, Sullivan said.<br />
<br />
"What's Live Search? You don't even know that it's Microsoft," he said, recommending Microsoft raze the Live brand and rename it Microsoft Search.<br />
<br />
In the meeting with employees, Ballmer acknowledged that Microsoft needed to invest in marketing the brand. But when Sullivan considered the idea of more ad campaigns to spread the Microsoft search gospel, he concluded that easing Google's grip on searchers would take more than a good tagline.<br />
<br />
When people ditched AltaVista for Google, it was because AltaVista's results were getting worse, Sullivan said, and people sought out a replacement. Unless Google loses sight of its search technology, there's no real reason for people to break their habit.<br />
<br />
Microsoft's strength in display advertising, its efforts with its Tellme voice search division and mobile search, and its presence in video game advertising could bolster Microsoft's online business despite its No. 3 position in search.<br />
<br />
"It's not just about search, it's about changing the game of advertising," Goldman Sachs analyst Sarah Friar said.<br />
<br />
As an example, Friar envisioned using Microsoft's near-ubiquity in the workplace and its recent acquisition of Fast, an enterprise search company, to bring digital advertising into new contexts beyond surfing the Web.<br />
<br />
Charlene Li, an analyst at Forrester Research, also believes Microsoft should look beyond search, perhaps pushing ahead with plans to deploy software over the Internet and to get marketers to use a Microsoft platform for mobile and display advertising.<br />
<br />
"The problem with a definition of success (is that) when this whole acquisition thing began, it was beating Google, and I think that's the wrong battle to fight," Li said. "I'd rather see them hit Google where it's weak."]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[SEATTLE (AP) — Without the influx of Web traffic that Microsoft bet would quickly follow a Yahoo buyout, the software maker is facing a long slog if it wants to turn its money-losing online services business into a Google-killer.<br />
<br />
Since it withdrew a &#36;47.5 billion bid for Yahoo Inc. after talks collapsed, Microsoft Corp. has offered little insight into what "Plan C" will entail. In that vacuum, experts are scraping the bottom of the barrel for ideas, with many concluding that they actually don't know what could get Microsoft out of its pickle.<br />
<br />
It is not clear Microsoft can do this alone — and in fact, it's not always clear what "this" is. Some analysts say Microsoft must increase its search traffic to attract advertisers. Others believe Microsoft should concede that market to Google Inc. and find success elsewhere — leapfrogging rivals in areas such as display and mobile advertising.<br />
<br />
All that is clear is Microsoft must come up with a Plan C soon, after acknowledging that its Plan A of going solo was troubled, forcing it to turn to Plan B of acquiring Yahoo.<br />
<br />
Part of the problem analysts face predicting Microsoft's next moves is that the company has already tried the obvious tactics. It built its own search-ad platform from scratch and spent &#36;6 billion to buy a major online advertising company, aQuantive.<br />
<br />
Microsoft overhauled its search engine technology, and most analysts agree that its results are at least as good as Google's. It tweaked the design of its Live Search service to become more like Google. It touted its improvements on billboards and in glossy magazines.<br />
<br />
Last year, the company seemed confident that it wouldn't take much to convert the hundreds of millions of Hotmail users, Xbox Live-connected video gamers and Windows Live Messenger chatters into a flood of search traffic.<br />
<br />
"We've done a lot of work to get clear strategy and focus," Kevin Johnson, who heads the division that includes online services, told a gathering of financial analysts in July. In November, Johnson detailed aggressive goals that included capturing 30 percent of U.S. search queries.<br />
<br />
By January, though, it was apparent Microsoft's efforts weren't working. Its share of U.S. search queries was stuck under 10 percent, behind Yahoo's 22 percent and Google's 58 percent. Microsoft responded by proposing to buy Yahoo for its traffic and search-savvy engineers.<br />
<br />
That bid unraveled Saturday, and Microsoft is running out of options. Many expect Microsoft to make another run at Yahoo, or to buy other companies, such as Time Warner Inc.'s AOL, the online software company Salesforce.com Inc. or Facebook, the No. 2 online hangout in which Microsoft already owns a 1.6 percent stake.<br />
<br />
For now, Microsoft seems focused on going alone, though the company declined to make executives available to talk about its online plans. In Japan, Chairman Bill Gates told reporters Wednesday that "at this point Microsoft is focused on its independent strategy."<br />
<br />
Just two days before Microsoft Chief Executive Steve Ballmer walked away from the Yahoo bid, he outlined to employees a four-part plan to "build the most interesting position in the world in online advertising, media, and the kind of social connected search and media experiences that go along with that."<br />
<br />
First, Microsoft must do the basics — a huge search index, lots of storage in the cloud for users — very well.<br />
<br />
It must innovate in "quick waves" that force Google to play catch-up.<br />
<br />
It must "change the basic experiences" of communication and search.<br />
<br />
And it must gain scale.<br />
<br />
"We have a strategy and we have ideas in each one of those categories," Ballmer told the employees.<br />
<br />
The promise fell flat with analysts who had heard it so recently before.<br />
<br />
Part of Microsoft's trouble is all the attention that Google gets. After all, no one uses Microsoft as a verb for search.<br />
<br />
Danny Sullivan, editor in chief of the industry news site SearchEngineLand.com, said Microsoft's Live Search has innovative features people would really like.<br />
<br />
Its image search results keep growing as users scroll, eliminating the need to click to the next page. Video search thumbnails start playing when the user mouses over them. Microsoft has also launched specialized searches for health and medical information and added some fun features for the celebrity-obsessed.<br />
<br />
But nobody knows about that, Sullivan said.<br />
<br />
"What's Live Search? You don't even know that it's Microsoft," he said, recommending Microsoft raze the Live brand and rename it Microsoft Search.<br />
<br />
In the meeting with employees, Ballmer acknowledged that Microsoft needed to invest in marketing the brand. But when Sullivan considered the idea of more ad campaigns to spread the Microsoft search gospel, he concluded that easing Google's grip on searchers would take more than a good tagline.<br />
<br />
When people ditched AltaVista for Google, it was because AltaVista's results were getting worse, Sullivan said, and people sought out a replacement. Unless Google loses sight of its search technology, there's no real reason for people to break their habit.<br />
<br />
Microsoft's strength in display advertising, its efforts with its Tellme voice search division and mobile search, and its presence in video game advertising could bolster Microsoft's online business despite its No. 3 position in search.<br />
<br />
"It's not just about search, it's about changing the game of advertising," Goldman Sachs analyst Sarah Friar said.<br />
<br />
As an example, Friar envisioned using Microsoft's near-ubiquity in the workplace and its recent acquisition of Fast, an enterprise search company, to bring digital advertising into new contexts beyond surfing the Web.<br />
<br />
Charlene Li, an analyst at Forrester Research, also believes Microsoft should look beyond search, perhaps pushing ahead with plans to deploy software over the Internet and to get marketers to use a Microsoft platform for mobile and display advertising.<br />
<br />
"The problem with a definition of success (is that) when this whole acquisition thing began, it was beating Google, and I think that's the wrong battle to fight," Li said. "I'd rather see them hit Google where it's weak."]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[New Yahoo tool]]></title>
			<link>http://www.seoa.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=151</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 13:16:21 +0100</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Bangalore: Separating wheat from the chaff during Internet searches can be a challenge: major search engines tend to substitute quantity for quality, returning many thousand results few users have the time to go through.<br />
<br />
When it guesses that the user might be looking for more in-depth information, a new Yahoo tool provides, a lot of additional material — mostly visual — to provide an encyclopaedia-like page of multimedia reference material. It is called Yahoo Glue Pages — and it was substantially developed at the Bangalore end of Yahoo’s R&D labs.<br />
<br />
Interestingly, the initial or beta release, of Glue Pages, is limited to India — and to the http://www.yahoo.in portal. “This is the first time that Yahoo India is launching a product ahead of the rest of the world,” explained Tapan Bhat, Yahoo’s U.S.-based senior vice-president.<br />
<br />
While a normal Yahoo search at Yahoo.com, on “Aishwarya Rai” sees a list of conventional links; the same search if done at the ‘glued’ Yahoo.in site, brings up videos of her interview on American late night David Letterman Show; a clip of her Miss Universe triumph from You Tube; music tracks from her films; a portfolio of photos from the Flickr photo sharing site — as well as leads to related terms.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Bangalore: Separating wheat from the chaff during Internet searches can be a challenge: major search engines tend to substitute quantity for quality, returning many thousand results few users have the time to go through.<br />
<br />
When it guesses that the user might be looking for more in-depth information, a new Yahoo tool provides, a lot of additional material — mostly visual — to provide an encyclopaedia-like page of multimedia reference material. It is called Yahoo Glue Pages — and it was substantially developed at the Bangalore end of Yahoo’s R&D labs.<br />
<br />
Interestingly, the initial or beta release, of Glue Pages, is limited to India — and to the http://www.yahoo.in portal. “This is the first time that Yahoo India is launching a product ahead of the rest of the world,” explained Tapan Bhat, Yahoo’s U.S.-based senior vice-president.<br />
<br />
While a normal Yahoo search at Yahoo.com, on “Aishwarya Rai” sees a list of conventional links; the same search if done at the ‘glued’ Yahoo.in site, brings up videos of her interview on American late night David Letterman Show; a clip of her Miss Universe triumph from You Tube; music tracks from her films; a portfolio of photos from the Flickr photo sharing site — as well as leads to related terms.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Yahoo! chief searches for some allies]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 13:15:22 +0100</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Shareholders are baying for the blood of the web portal's CEO, Jerry Yang, after his failed deal with Microsoft, reports James Doran in New York<br />
<br />
The long-drawn-out and ultimately abortive takeover battle between Microsoft and Yahoo! was lowered into the grave of history last week. But the saga is far from over. Shareholders in both companies are unhappy, while questions about the viability of Jerry Yang, the Yahoo! chief executive, and Steve Ballmer, his Microsoft counterpart, are growing louder by the day.<br />
<br />
Now that the dust has started to settle, a growing number of Yahoo! and Microsoft investors are beginning to realise that there was much amiss with the performances of both leading men.<br />
<br />
Ballmer might have seemed like the more decisive and aggressive player as he stuck firm and refused to increase the &#36;45.7bn, &#36;33-a-share offer for Yahoo! by the &#36;4 a share demanded by Yang. But all that really happened is that Microsoft did not end up buying Yahoo! - which, seeing as Ballmer implied just a few weeks ago that the deal was crucial to the software giant's future, is a bit lame.<br />
<br />
Ballmer's bid was badly executed from the start. First, the Microsoft chief executive failed to gauge shareholder support for the move. So when he launched the bid at &#36;31 a share in cash and stock on 1 February, at a massive 62 per cent premium to Yahoo!'s share price at the time, his own shareholders ran for the hills, sending Microsoft's price down almost &#36;25bn in a show of disgust.<br />
<br />
Thus the paper portion of the deal was devalued so substantially that Ballmer had no choice but to increase his offer to &#36;33 a share. The move made him look weak in the face of Yang's defiance. When Yang upped the ante still further and asked for an extra four dollars a share, Ballmer had two choices: he could have accepted the challenge, thus admitting that when you are already paying a price 70 per cent above the stock market valuation, an extra couple of billion amounts to a mere hill of beans, or launched a hostile bid and forced the issue, saving his shareholders a few billion but opening the door to a long legal tussle.<br />
<br />
He did neither, instead opting to pack up his toys and go home in a huff. But no matter how foolish Ballmer may have looked in fumbling the bid of a lifetime, he is in a far safer position than Yang.<br />
<br />
As co-founder of Yahoo!, Yang is considered by many investors and analysts to be too complacent. 'As the founder, he knows he isn't going anywhere,' says Eric Jackson, an activist hedge fund manager who is trying to build a shareholder revolt to oust the Yahoo! board, Yang included. 'But that doesn't mean we can't get rid of him as CEO.'<br />
<br />
Investors are angry that Yang and Roy Bostock, Yahoo!'s new chairman, claimed that their demand for an extra &#36;4 a share was somehow representative of shareholders' wishes, which, by all accounts, it was not. Bill Miller at Legg Mason, which is one of Yahoo!'s biggest investors, says he would have been happy with a deal at around &#36;35 a share.<br />
<br />
Analysts, too, are putting up a flurry of 'sell' recommendations in a sign that they have run out of patience with Yang. '[Investors will] be calling for his head if, by the end of the year, there haven't been some substantial improvements,' says Brian Bolan of Jackson Securities in Chicago. 'Certainly he should be concerned about his job, and the shareholders are going to revolt at some point.'<br />
<br />
Yang's post-Microsoft strategy, meanwhile, amounts to 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'. He is in talks to outsource Yahoo!'s search-results advertising arm to Google. Shareholders don't like that very much either. Most would rather have a share buyback to increase the value of their stock rather than a half-hearted deal that is more a show of capitulation than an example of confident management executing sound strategy.<br />
<br />
But no matter how invincible Yang may feel as a founder, he is aware of his shareholders' concerns and their plans to oust him. Late last Monday, obviously rattled by the growing revolt, he announced that Yahoo! would hold its annual board meeting on 3 July. Company bylaws dictate that any investor wishing to propose an alternative slate of directors must do so within 10 days of the announcement of the meeting - barely giving anyone time to do so. Jackson, who owns only 96 Yahoo! shares but has built a coalition of investors holding 3 million, is trying to draw up a slate by Thursday, but he faces an uphill struggle to meet the deadline. 'We know who we want but it is a question of having the time to talk to them and get them to agree in just a few days,' he says. <br />
<br />
Even if he fails to call for the board's dismissal in July, Jackson is planning to make his views heard. 'I have yet to hear any shareholder say that Jerry Yang was representing investors' wishes when he demanded another &#36;4 a share,' he says. 'What I have heard, though, universally, is disbelief and anger at his arrogance and disconnection from reality. Bostock too. They are out of touch with the will of the shareholders.'<br />
<br />
With many similar voices preparing to be raised at the meeting - which will be held the day before the Independence Day holiday - it looks as though Jerry Yang could be in for some fireworks a little earlier than usual this year.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Shareholders are baying for the blood of the web portal's CEO, Jerry Yang, after his failed deal with Microsoft, reports James Doran in New York<br />
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The long-drawn-out and ultimately abortive takeover battle between Microsoft and Yahoo! was lowered into the grave of history last week. But the saga is far from over. Shareholders in both companies are unhappy, while questions about the viability of Jerry Yang, the Yahoo! chief executive, and Steve Ballmer, his Microsoft counterpart, are growing louder by the day.<br />
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Now that the dust has started to settle, a growing number of Yahoo! and Microsoft investors are beginning to realise that there was much amiss with the performances of both leading men.<br />
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Ballmer might have seemed like the more decisive and aggressive player as he stuck firm and refused to increase the &#36;45.7bn, &#36;33-a-share offer for Yahoo! by the &#36;4 a share demanded by Yang. But all that really happened is that Microsoft did not end up buying Yahoo! - which, seeing as Ballmer implied just a few weeks ago that the deal was crucial to the software giant's future, is a bit lame.<br />
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Ballmer's bid was badly executed from the start. First, the Microsoft chief executive failed to gauge shareholder support for the move. So when he launched the bid at &#36;31 a share in cash and stock on 1 February, at a massive 62 per cent premium to Yahoo!'s share price at the time, his own shareholders ran for the hills, sending Microsoft's price down almost &#36;25bn in a show of disgust.<br />
<br />
Thus the paper portion of the deal was devalued so substantially that Ballmer had no choice but to increase his offer to &#36;33 a share. The move made him look weak in the face of Yang's defiance. When Yang upped the ante still further and asked for an extra four dollars a share, Ballmer had two choices: he could have accepted the challenge, thus admitting that when you are already paying a price 70 per cent above the stock market valuation, an extra couple of billion amounts to a mere hill of beans, or launched a hostile bid and forced the issue, saving his shareholders a few billion but opening the door to a long legal tussle.<br />
<br />
He did neither, instead opting to pack up his toys and go home in a huff. But no matter how foolish Ballmer may have looked in fumbling the bid of a lifetime, he is in a far safer position than Yang.<br />
<br />
As co-founder of Yahoo!, Yang is considered by many investors and analysts to be too complacent. 'As the founder, he knows he isn't going anywhere,' says Eric Jackson, an activist hedge fund manager who is trying to build a shareholder revolt to oust the Yahoo! board, Yang included. 'But that doesn't mean we can't get rid of him as CEO.'<br />
<br />
Investors are angry that Yang and Roy Bostock, Yahoo!'s new chairman, claimed that their demand for an extra &#36;4 a share was somehow representative of shareholders' wishes, which, by all accounts, it was not. Bill Miller at Legg Mason, which is one of Yahoo!'s biggest investors, says he would have been happy with a deal at around &#36;35 a share.<br />
<br />
Analysts, too, are putting up a flurry of 'sell' recommendations in a sign that they have run out of patience with Yang. '[Investors will] be calling for his head if, by the end of the year, there haven't been some substantial improvements,' says Brian Bolan of Jackson Securities in Chicago. 'Certainly he should be concerned about his job, and the shareholders are going to revolt at some point.'<br />
<br />
Yang's post-Microsoft strategy, meanwhile, amounts to 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'. He is in talks to outsource Yahoo!'s search-results advertising arm to Google. Shareholders don't like that very much either. Most would rather have a share buyback to increase the value of their stock rather than a half-hearted deal that is more a show of capitulation than an example of confident management executing sound strategy.<br />
<br />
But no matter how invincible Yang may feel as a founder, he is aware of his shareholders' concerns and their plans to oust him. Late last Monday, obviously rattled by the growing revolt, he announced that Yahoo! would hold its annual board meeting on 3 July. Company bylaws dictate that any investor wishing to propose an alternative slate of directors must do so within 10 days of the announcement of the meeting - barely giving anyone time to do so. Jackson, who owns only 96 Yahoo! shares but has built a coalition of investors holding 3 million, is trying to draw up a slate by Thursday, but he faces an uphill struggle to meet the deadline. 'We know who we want but it is a question of having the time to talk to them and get them to agree in just a few days,' he says. <br />
<br />
Even if he fails to call for the board's dismissal in July, Jackson is planning to make his views heard. 'I have yet to hear any shareholder say that Jerry Yang was representing investors' wishes when he demanded another &#36;4 a share,' he says. 'What I have heard, though, universally, is disbelief and anger at his arrogance and disconnection from reality. Bostock too. They are out of touch with the will of the shareholders.'<br />
<br />
With many similar voices preparing to be raised at the meeting - which will be held the day before the Independence Day holiday - it looks as though Jerry Yang could be in for some fireworks a little earlier than usual this year.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Google starts online donation campaign for Myanmar victims]]></title>
			<link>http://www.seoa.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=149</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 13:13:12 +0100</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Internet major Google has initiated an online donation campaign for the cyclone victims in Myanmar and has committed to provide up to &#36;one million financial assistance for relief works.<br />
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Google, which would donate up to one million dollars for the relief works in Myanmar, has called upon users to join efforts to assist the cyclone victims.<br />
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Myanmar was hit by the devastating Cyclone Nargis last week. Although, the exact death toll is yet to emerge, nearly one lakh people are estimated to have been killed in the disaster.<br />
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The search engine has teamed with United Nations International Children's Emergency Fund (UNICEF) and Direct Relief International, an NGO which provides medical assistance to people affected by poverty, disaster and civil unrest.<br />
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"Your donation will help survivors and other disaster victims rebuild their communities and their lives. In addition, when you donate on this page, Google donates too. We'll donate up to one million dollars to help organisations provide relief," said a message posted on the webpage (http://www.Google.Com/myanmarcyclone).<br />
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The initiative of Google is titled 'Support disaster relief in Myanmar'. However, details of the donations made through the website were not available.<br />
<br />
Meanwhile, American Red Cross which has the 'International Response Fund' through which people can make donations for relief works across nations, has called for donations for the Myanmar cyclone victims.<br />
<br />
People can donate a minimum of &#36;10.<br />
<br />
"Every day people around the world are suffering from countless crises, like the cyclone in Myanmar. Your gift to the American Red Cross International Response Fund helps provide them immediate relief and long-term support through supplies, technical assistance and other support," according to its official website.<br />
<br />
On Friday, the UN had appealed for donations to the tune of 187 million dollars from its member countries and in response to the call, the international body has received donations worth &#36;77 million.<br />
<br />
The UN anticipates that 187 million dollars of donation would help to aid at least 1.5 million people in the affected areas for the next six months, especially to address the rising food needs in Myanmar.<br />
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UN Emergency Relief Coordinator and Under-Secretary-General for Humanitarian Affairs John Holmes had said the amount included bilateral assistance and assistance through the Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Internet major Google has initiated an online donation campaign for the cyclone victims in Myanmar and has committed to provide up to &#36;one million financial assistance for relief works.<br />
<br />
Google, which would donate up to one million dollars for the relief works in Myanmar, has called upon users to join efforts to assist the cyclone victims.<br />
<br />
Myanmar was hit by the devastating Cyclone Nargis last week. Although, the exact death toll is yet to emerge, nearly one lakh people are estimated to have been killed in the disaster.<br />
<br />
The search engine has teamed with United Nations International Children's Emergency Fund (UNICEF) and Direct Relief International, an NGO which provides medical assistance to people affected by poverty, disaster and civil unrest.<br />
<br />
"Your donation will help survivors and other disaster victims rebuild their communities and their lives. In addition, when you donate on this page, Google donates too. We'll donate up to one million dollars to help organisations provide relief," said a message posted on the webpage (http://www.Google.Com/myanmarcyclone).<br />
<br />
The initiative of Google is titled 'Support disaster relief in Myanmar'. However, details of the donations made through the website were not available.<br />
<br />
Meanwhile, American Red Cross which has the 'International Response Fund' through which people can make donations for relief works across nations, has called for donations for the Myanmar cyclone victims.<br />
<br />
People can donate a minimum of &#36;10.<br />
<br />
"Every day people around the world are suffering from countless crises, like the cyclone in Myanmar. Your gift to the American Red Cross International Response Fund helps provide them immediate relief and long-term support through supplies, technical assistance and other support," according to its official website.<br />
<br />
On Friday, the UN had appealed for donations to the tune of 187 million dollars from its member countries and in response to the call, the international body has received donations worth &#36;77 million.<br />
<br />
The UN anticipates that 187 million dollars of donation would help to aid at least 1.5 million people in the affected areas for the next six months, especially to address the rising food needs in Myanmar.<br />
<br />
UN Emergency Relief Coordinator and Under-Secretary-General for Humanitarian Affairs John Holmes had said the amount included bilateral assistance and assistance through the Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Google, Sprint, Others to Build Wireless Data Network]]></title>
			<link>http://www.seoa.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=148</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 13:10:03 +0100</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Google has announced that it will partner with several other companies to build a high-speed mobile data network. In a separate but related deal, Google will also become the default search provider for Sprint, including having one-click search access and Google Maps pre-installed on some Sprint phones. 'The consortium includes a disparate group of partners: Sprint Nextel, Google, Intel, Comcast, Time Warner and Clearwire. The partners have put the value of the deal at &#36;14.5 billion, a figure that includes radio spectrum and equipment provided by Sprint Nextel and Clearwire, and &#36;3.2 billion from the others involved. They expect the network, which will provide the next generation of high-speed Internet access for cellphone users, to be built in as little as two years, but there is no timetable on when it will be available to users and the price is not determined. The partners are seeking to beat Verizon Wireless and AT&T Wireless to the market.'"]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Google has announced that it will partner with several other companies to build a high-speed mobile data network. In a separate but related deal, Google will also become the default search provider for Sprint, including having one-click search access and Google Maps pre-installed on some Sprint phones. 'The consortium includes a disparate group of partners: Sprint Nextel, Google, Intel, Comcast, Time Warner and Clearwire. The partners have put the value of the deal at &#36;14.5 billion, a figure that includes radio spectrum and equipment provided by Sprint Nextel and Clearwire, and &#36;3.2 billion from the others involved. They expect the network, which will provide the next generation of high-speed Internet access for cellphone users, to be built in as little as two years, but there is no timetable on when it will be available to users and the price is not determined. The partners are seeking to beat Verizon Wireless and AT&T Wireless to the market.'"]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Microsoft v Yahoo or Microsoft v Yahoo &amp;#x26; Google]]></title>
			<link>http://www.seoa.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=147</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 13:08:41 +0100</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Officially, talks between Microsoft and Yahoo broke down over price: Microsoft Chief Executive Steve Ballmer reportedly raised his company's offer by about &#36;5 billion to &#36;33 a share, while Yahoo CEO Jerry Yang and fellow co-founder David Filo were holding out for &#36;37 or &#36;38 a share, or about another &#36;5 billion.<br />
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Ballmer had threatened to go directly to shareholders to win their support, but decided instead to drop the takeover bid entirely after learning more about Yahoo's plans to outsource some of its business to Google<br />
<br />
It does raise the question, where Google heavily involved in the bidding process?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Officially, talks between Microsoft and Yahoo broke down over price: Microsoft Chief Executive Steve Ballmer reportedly raised his company's offer by about &#36;5 billion to &#36;33 a share, while Yahoo CEO Jerry Yang and fellow co-founder David Filo were holding out for &#36;37 or &#36;38 a share, or about another &#36;5 billion.<br />
<br />
Ballmer had threatened to go directly to shareholders to win their support, but decided instead to drop the takeover bid entirely after learning more about Yahoo's plans to outsource some of its business to Google<br />
<br />
It does raise the question, where Google heavily involved in the bidding process?]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Do Follow - No Follow]]></title>
			<link>http://www.seoa.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=146</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 12:59:18 +0100</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Sometimes people fail to balance their online marketing efforts by being short sighted. Making good quality comments on popular blogs can be beneficial even if the blog incorporates the no-follow attribute. It is widely believed Yahoo still counts no-follow links, however regardless of this, good quality blog comments can be a good source of driving visitors to your website.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Sometimes people fail to balance their online marketing efforts by being short sighted. Making good quality comments on popular blogs can be beneficial even if the blog incorporates the no-follow attribute. It is widely believed Yahoo still counts no-follow links, however regardless of this, good quality blog comments can be a good source of driving visitors to your website.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Outsourcing PPC]]></title>
			<link>http://www.seoa.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=145</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 15:11:03 +0100</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[My field of expertise is much more the PPC side than SEO. If any of you are focussed on SEO and think that offering PPC as a way of papering over the cracks where SEO doesn't work would offer your clients a more comprehensive service, but don't want to get involved in PPC yourselves, we can help. We already work with a number of web designers who outsource their PPC to us and generate an extra income for their business without any extra work. perhaps we could do the same for you?<br />
<br />
If this sounds of interest, please contact me to discuss dan.smale@theclientfactory.co.uk]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[My field of expertise is much more the PPC side than SEO. If any of you are focussed on SEO and think that offering PPC as a way of papering over the cracks where SEO doesn't work would offer your clients a more comprehensive service, but don't want to get involved in PPC yourselves, we can help. We already work with a number of web designers who outsource their PPC to us and generate an extra income for their business without any extra work. perhaps we could do the same for you?<br />
<br />
If this sounds of interest, please contact me to discuss dan.smale@theclientfactory.co.uk]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Happy Birthday Tim]]></title>
			<link>http://www.seoa.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=144</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 11:28:34 +0100</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Happy 21st mate]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Happy 21st mate]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Hello]]></title>
			<link>http://www.seoa.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=143</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 10:09:22 +0100</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Hi I'm Neil<br />
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I heard about this forum on 4N and am happy to hang around and dispense any SEO advice I can and hopefully learn some stuff too!<br />
<br />
I'm currently working on my design skills while building up a portfolio of sites coded with standards compliance, accessibility and SEO/SEF in mind and hope to be of some use loitering around the corners.<br />
<br />
Cheers all...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Hi I'm Neil<br />
<br />
I heard about this forum on 4N and am happy to hang around and dispense any SEO advice I can and hopefully learn some stuff too!<br />
<br />
I'm currently working on my design skills while building up a portfolio of sites coded with standards compliance, accessibility and SEO/SEF in mind and hope to be of some use loitering around the corners.<br />
<br />
Cheers all...]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Property in Bulgaria]]></title>
			<link>http://www.seoa.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=142</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 08:38:16 +0100</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[The brand new Villa Nina properties at IBAR  offer 3 bedroom properties, each with a roof terrace area.<br />
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Villa Nina from: €169, 000<br />
Click here for more information on this property type<br />
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http://www.bulgariasfinest.com]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[The brand new Villa Nina properties at IBAR  offer 3 bedroom properties, each with a roof terrace area.<br />
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Villa Nina from: €169, 000<br />
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			<title><![CDATA[Bulgaria Properties]]></title>
			<link>http://www.seoa.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=141</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 08:36:32 +0100</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[The New Villa Radina properties at IBAR offer spacious accommodation set out over two floors, with an additional roof terrace. <br />
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Villa Radina from: €169, 000<br />
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[The New Villa Radina properties at IBAR offer spacious accommodation set out over two floors, with an additional roof terrace. <br />
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Villa Radina from: €169, 000<br />
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			<title><![CDATA[Bulgaria Properties]]></title>
			<link>http://www.seoa.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=140</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 08:33:14 +0100</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[The New Front Line Golf Villa Irina properties at IBAR offer 4 bedrooms, a covered terrace and a garage - Great for Families! <br />
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*Pre Launch - Front Line Golf €259, 000<br />
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Villa Irina from: €259, 000* <br />
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[The New Front Line Golf Villa Irina properties at IBAR offer 4 bedrooms, a covered terrace and a garage - Great for Families! <br />
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*Pre Launch - Front Line Golf €259, 000<br />
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